New free calls from the US to Israel (and back).
www.jajah.com offers free calls between members.
Membership is free.
Calling a US cell phone from jajah is free but calling an Israeli cell phone costs 19 cents a minute.
The way it works is you put in the number you are calling and then hit dial on the computer. Your phone then rings and when you pick it up it says that it is connecting to the other caller and it calls the other caller. It is very cool.
Try it out and you can call us for free.
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You can make free inter-Israel calls for free between land-lines. This means that you don't have to pay Bezek for inter-Israel calls either. Cell phones still cost.
The only negative is that your computer has to be on so you can click on the button to start the call. Slightly inconvenient but free.
Thursday, December 28, 2006
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i have set it up, i will try and call you tomorrow
I have it set up on my computer and call family in the U.S. almost every day.
From Ramat Hasharon, Eitan.
Hi, my name is Jacqui and I'm a Christian and I came across this site while looking something about Galilee. I think it's really cool that you're into you faith and that you made a connection between you and Jesus both being Jewish which I feel like that makes Christians part Jewish too. I was just wondering what were your personal opinions on why Jewish people don't really accept Jesus' teachings? I'm really sorry to be asking you this as a complete stranger, but I was hoping to ask someone who seemed to understand Judaism really well. Thanks for reading this and God bless!
-Jacqui
Jacqui,
It is very simple. God gave the Jews the Torah (bible) a long time before Jesus came around.
If Jesus said anything different then what the Torah says then he is contradicting the word of God. Why would we listen to him. If he said something that was part of the Torah, then we already have it, we don't need him.
How does Jesus contradict the Old Testament? From what I've seen and read it seems like he just kind of "raised the bar". When Moses stated the 10 commandments, they're decently easy to follow. No murdering; it's pretty easy to not kill someone but then Jesus says yes, God doesnt want to you to kill anyone but he also doesnt want you to have anger in your heart. That hatred is sometimes what leads you to murder(obviously not everyone but most murderers kill because they are angry). I am just a beginner in studying the Bible(old and new testament) and i was wondering what sort of accounts by Jesus contradict anything that is said by Moses or anywhere in the Old Testament.
God bless,
Jacqui
I have no idea if Jesus contradicted anything. I have never read his collected works.
On the other side, the Torah is a lot more then 10 commandments. Aside from that there is the oral Torah. We have plenty of commentaries on the Torah and a tradition of how to behave. If you want to say that he was simply a commentary on the Torah, then he was not accepted by the community. If you want to say he added on to the Torah, it specifically says in the Torah do not add any new commandments.
Your example of something not in the Torah is not to hate. That is already in the Torah.
I would be happy to continue discussing this with you. However, please have respect and refer to the Torah as the Torah. If you refer to Christian literature, please refer to it as Christian literature.
This blog only recognizes one Testament and it is neither old or new - it is eternal and it is called the Torah.
I'm very sorry if I offended you by calling the Torah, the Old Testament. I thought that the Torah was the first five books of the Bible(the law of Moses) and I know a little about the Tanakh but I'm (obviously) not very adept with a lot of Jewish customs (and I'm very grateful for your patience). In Isaiah 53, there are a lot of hints of someone coming to sufferer so that we can be healed. "Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted. But He was pierced through our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed"-Isaiah 53:4-5
I asked my sister for some help and she said in Isaiah and Jeremiah there were many accounts of someone coming to rescue us from our sins and this was just the first page of Isaiah we turned to. I feel like this is a foreshadowing of a Savior.
Thanks for the response and I'm excited to here back from you. And once again, I'm very sorry if I offended you. God bless!
-Jacqui
I'm not offended, I would just like the language on this blog acceptable to me. If I came to your blog and asked you questions it would be appropriate for me to use language that you consider acceptable. By first explaining what is acceptable here, we don't run into the problem of being offended.
I find it odd that in a beginning bible study class they didn't start with the creation, but went straight to chapter 53 in Isaiah. Before you get to chapter 53 of Isaiah, you need a very deep foundation and understanding. There are 52 previous chapters that you skipped, even if you wanted to start straight with Isaiah though that is a very, very strange place to start. As you know, Isaiah is the 7th book of the Prophets, which comes after the 5 books given to us directly from God.
I can't answer your question anymore then a calculus professor can explain a simple equation to a first grader. Before you can get to the level of the simple equation, you first have to have all the foundation.
My turn to ask you 2 questions.
1) Can you tell me about yourself? I like to have an idea to who I am talking.
2) Do you believe that the Torah is divine, given directly to the Jewish people from God??
Hi! I'm glad to hear you weren't offended and I'm sorry that I wasn't clear in introducing myself. I was born and raised a Christian but I did little to apply the Bible to my life and it got to the point where I had many doubts of God's existence. I was about to give up on God but I was going on a retreat with my family and ministry but I promised myself I wouldn't just believe everything I was told and I pretty much said this was the last time I would give God a shot. Half way through the week, nothing was really happening and I just accepted the fact that there was no God until I began to talk to many different people about their backrounds and what they overcame and why they believe. Through many testimonies, I decided to give God another shot and I really found Him for myself. (This might be more info than you expected...I hope you don't mind)
I spoke to people who went to Bible colleges about what they knew, researched a lot for myself and found some answers. So the jist is...I'm not new to the Bible, I believe in giving God your all, I definitely believe in finding out things for myself, I don't believe in the Trinity and I do believe in Jesus dying for my sins and coming back one more time and he's bringing the Kingdom of Heaven.
I go to youth groups and fellowships but I'm not taking classes or anything.
I do believe that the Torah is divine and I definitely believe in Moses and Abraham and that they knew someone would come to show people the way into the "Kingdom"
(Another ex. Deut. 18:18-19)
I want to be baptized this summer but I want to understand why I am committed and what I am committing myself to. I hope this gives you a better understanding of who I am. :)
God bless,
Jacqui
You wrote before, "I am just a beginner in studying the Bible." Now you write, "I'm not new to the Bible." Can you explain?
So you're a Southern Baptist, if I read your post correctly. Can you give me an approximate age?
What do you think of Lev 11:7-8?
I think it is great that you have found God. I think that even without formal religion, belief in God and something greater then yourself is very important. Without that we are all just accidents and all laws are those of men, which are therefore fallible.
Hi! I am not a Southern Baptist but I do go to one Baptist youth group (I'm simply Christian).
By saying I was a beginner to the Bible, I meant to imply that it was the first year of my life that I've really embraced Christianity and looking for the answers myself. In that sense, I'm just getting started. From my childhood, I know a lot about the Bible.
I read Leviticus 11:1-8 and I'm definitely going to apply it to my life unless I find reason against it.
What did Isaiah 53 mean to you? Why wouldn't you accept Jesus after that chapter?
God bless,
Jacqui
p.s. I'm a junior in high school
p.p.s. I agree that finding God is a really important thing to do and anytime you're willing to give God your all is very important. Jesus said that he is the way to God and the Kingdom. I can't accept that God would deny anyone who lived for Him but I also don't think Jesus was a liar, so basically I just think it's really important to know your stuff so you can stand firmly for what you believe in.
jacqui,
Unfortunately, I don't have time to write today, as Friday is very busy as I get ready for the shabbat.
However, so as not to leave you hanging here is something to think about Isaiah 53. Teenagers have a much greater ability for intellectual honesty then adults have, so you may actually be able to do this.
Read the wikipedia about the Ten Martyrs, who were Jewish leaders who were tortured to death for no reason other then that they were Jewish leaders. the wikipedia doesn't have the full account of the story, but I don't have a better online source at the moment and it will give you the idea.
Read the passage again from Isaiah 53 and then tell me why the prophecy could not have been talking about 1 of those 10, all of those 10 or any one of countless other Jews who have suffered and suffered again, including those people who were tortured and died 60-70 years ago during the holocaust in Germany.
Remember it is a prophecy and Jesus was not born when the prophecy was made. He was not the only Jewish person who suffered. If you want to say it is about a specific person then you have to prove that it can only be talking about him and nobody else.
Also, if you feel the Torah is divine then why do you think Christians generally do not follow the laws of eating as stipulated in Liv: 11
Hey sorry I haven't written back in so long. I've been researching and then I computer(s) problems. In Acts 10 it talks about how it's ok to eat the "unclean food" because Jesus made it clean when he died for our sins.
I also don't believe that Isaiah 53 or Deut. 18:18 was talking about any of those martyrs because there have been many martyrs throughout history but none that performed so many miracles like Jesus and none that when they died, an earthquake went off and split up the temple. I feel that it's very confusing but the more I look into it, the more I understand and believe that Jesus was Lord(not to be confused with LORD<3)
God bless,
Jacqui
I would say that the Christian literature that you quoted contradicts the Torah. The Torah, which we agree is divine, says don't eat specific food. Your Christian literature says "eat what you want."
Isaiah doesn't mention that the person who will be tortured and die performs any miracles. Being that it is a vague prophecy, it could be talking about one individual or possibly many individuals. When a great Jewish leader dies, we say "may his death atone for our sins."
In the story of Rabbi Yishmael, when they were ripping off the part of his face where he wore a religious article he screamed anbd the whole world shook. A heavenly voice said, if you scream again, I will destroy the whole world.
I do believe that the Torah is divine and I do believe that the Bible is divine too and that Jesus was a savior. I believe in following Jesus traditions unless when Jesus died for our sins, he told us otherwise. In other cases, I would say to follow Jewish literature as well.
What I find odd is that the concept of "impure" animals had nothing to do with sin. Until after the flood in the time of Noah, people were not allowed to eat meat at all. Yet, Noah was told to bring 7 pairs of pure animals and 1 pair of impure animals onto the ark. When offering sacrifices to God, it could only be from pure animals. To say that when Jesus died your sins were wiped out and therefore the meat became clean is very disconnected.
In any case, now you have the answers as to the differences between Jews and Christians and why Jews don't believe in Jesus, even though Isaiah prophesized that a Jew would be tortured and die.
Jews believe that the Torah is eternal. It is not subject to change by anyone.
Christians believe that while the Torah is divine, it is still subject to change if the person changing it performs miracles and dies. They believe that Christian literature is a divine revision of God's original work because he changed his mind about certain commandments.
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